HX90's bios update for the stuck problem when fTPM is enabled on Windows 10/11
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mdes
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Hi,
I understood your sentence as "The 1202 fixed the issue, but 1207 contains the issue back". Because you used "that was fixed", I understood the issue reappeared in the 1207.
But this is due to my poor English tenses knowledge.
So now, I understand that the issue was definitively solved in 1202, and than, one has to update to this 1207.
That you for your last explanation.
I recommend that you still disable fTPM to test. thanks
Carbon fib'er
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You can google "amd usb firmware agesa bug" and find some stories about it. It's called a "connectivity" problem. It was fixed in 1.2.0.2, and I'm unclear when that was released.
The problem was discovered early 2021 (Feb/Mar). The news article I read about about 1.2.0.7 (the ftpm/stutter fix) being released last June (2022) said the 1.2.0.2 USB fix was released earlier this same year. Since the hx90's bios is dated Oct. 2021, I didn't think it would have 1.2.0.2. But, when I did that google search, articles said the usb fix was released in April 2021. If so, the original hx90 bios may have it. It's unfortunate there's no way to query what the agesa version is. The bios info screen refers to PI 1.2 [EDIT: ARMH 1.2]. I thought that might refer to the agesa being 1.2.0.0. The new update doesn't show anything (it's vastly different. I think they're sharing bioses with other makers. Cheaper.).
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Carbon fib'er
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Sorry, I was working from memory. I should have looked. It's the ARMH number (1.2) which I thought might represent the AGESA version. (If it did, it's probably just a comment, not a query of what's really there.).
Thanks.
We, members of Hirosaki Minisforum Club are very glad to update HX90 BIOS.
We own other products of your company. Especially many of members own HM80 and they are longing for your supply of new BIOS. We hope you support HM80.
日本のユーザーの皆さんへ
現在、AMDによりBIOS不具合の存在が公表されていますが、現在までのところ、MinisforumはHX90以外において修正版BIOSを提供していません。
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UM480 BIOS
UEFI 2.7; PI 1.6 Displayed
Advanced→CPU Configuration
AGESA Version 1005 Displayed
PI=AGESA Version Really?
other company's(Beelink) strange match
Japanese distributors are powerless
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mdes
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Sometimes, my connected hard drive is not recognized; I have to unplug it, and then, plug it back to be again recognized.
Same with the original BIOS and with the new one.
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It looks to me a reckless approach if some just copies someone's else bios update and post it as their own making! I am not suggesting that this is what happened, just if it was what truly happened. Lets hope its not!
Ok, I repost all my HX90 information (bought ten days ago):
BIOS Information
BIOS Vendor: American Megatrends
Core Version: 5.19
Compliancy: UEFI 2.7; PI 1.6
Project Version: ARMH 0.12 X64
Bulld Date and Time: 10/11/2021 17:47:08
Product Name: HX90
CPU Information: AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX with Radeon Graphics
CPU Configuration:
Module Version: CezanneCpu03
AGESA Version: CezannePI 1003b
The PC is upgraded with Windows 11 Pro latest patch via Windows update. It is connected with USB mouse, USB printer, USB Speaker. No USB external drives are connected.
I did some Stutter test with this site:
www.testufo.com
I do not have any problem, for now.
The only thing I can say is that the fan is a little bit noisy when the CPU goes full, but I think it's normal if you have the PC on your desk.
I'm not going to upgrade the BIOS for now. And I'd prefer to have an official BIOS upgrade on the support page of the Minis Forum and not sent in other ways...
thx
BIOS Information
BIOS Vendor: American Megatrends
Core Version: 5.19
Compliancy: UEFI 2.7; PI 1.6
Project Version: ARMH 0.12 X64
Bulld Date and Time: 10/11/2021 17:47:08
Product Name: HX90
CPU Information: AMD Ryzen 9 5900HX with Radeon Graphics
CPU Configuration:
Module Version: CezanneCpu03
AGESA Version: CezannePI 1003b
The PC is upgraded with Windows 11 Pro latest patch via Windows update. It is connected with USB mouse, USB printer, USB Speaker. No USB external drives are connected.
I did some Stutter test with this site:
TestUFO: Refreshrate
Animation on Blur Busters UFO Motion Tests for testing displays and monitors.
I do not have any problem, for now.
The only thing I can say is that the fan is a little bit noisy when the CPU goes full, but I think it's normal if you have the PC on your desk.
I'm not going to upgrade the BIOS for now. And I'd prefer to have an official BIOS upgrade on the support page of the Minis Forum and not sent in other ways...
thx
Please, have a look : "Prevent external USB hard drive from entering sleep mode"
Carbon fib'er
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I bought one of these USB-powered 140mm fans (3-speed) and set it on top of my HX90 blowing down into the internal fan. I used duct tape around the bottom of the fan to seal the bottom of the fan to the top of the computer case (force all the air into the machine). I hardly ever hear the internal fan change speed. I have two HX90s. When I updated the bios, one of the machines didn't have the fan sitting on top. I heard a huge difference between the two machines. The one with the fan, I don't think the internal fan increased speed at all. If so, just a little. But, the one without the fan ran hard/loud the whole time. (If my internal fan went out, I'd probably use something like this fan. Use 6" diameter flexible duct. Seal the end of the duct down to top of the machine. You can put the fan inside a cardboard box filled with pagacking "peanuts" to silence it. Have the intake duct come in one side, the output go out the other side of the box to the machine. Those fans move a huge amount of air. About 6 times more than the 140mm fan. The CPU temperature would never rise.
I suspect that external assistance could help the internal fan last longer. That's a consideration because I think the internal fan is proprietary. If it failed, I'm not sure where to find a replacement. (If the internal failed, I think that external fan would be enough to keep the cpu cool. Especially if the external is set to high speed. I had it on medium when flashing the bios and didn't hear the internal fan speed change. There's different brands. I think they're all the same as what I linked to. There's 80mm, 100, 120. I chose 140mm because larger fans sound quieter to me. They move more air at a slower speed, quieter. On medium, the one I have is very quiet. Almost can't hear it. High speed is louder, but not nearly as loud as the internal fan at its high speed. The external fan is more of a low-tone "whoosh." The internal fan is a higher tone like a motor running hard.
Warning to owners of other models: I think other models intake air from the bottom, or the sides. Placing a fan on top may not be the way to do it, and could even block air flow if it's blowing the wrong direction.